The Information Technology Voluntary Union

Supplies Engineers to Charities and some other suitable not for profit groups at no cost. Takes charitable donations in the form of hardware and service discounts from not for profit Limited Companies. The NfLtd. companies declare and deliver a discount off their list prices in order to gain tax credits for charitable work.

NfLtd.

Great play is being made these days of in particular IT companies, that are "Disguised Employees" of other companies. This all springs, I am lead to understand, to the fact that if you are a director of your own one man company, you can pay yourself whatever dividend you like and get away with tax. instead of paying for your earnings through PAYE, you pay through corporation tax. Depending on how you play the sliders you can pay a lot less tax than someone on a purely PAYE based income.

So if a company was to make a formal board declaration that it would never give out a dividend ever again, that would cease to be an issue. The company recieves an income from whatever work it does and invoices through the normal chanels. It pays whatever VAT is required based on the invoices. It pays the people who earn money from it in the nomal PAYE way and if that is one person, then the same applies. If there is a profit at the end of the quarter, the director(s) can choose to keep some for a short while as a float, but will normally pay a (pro-rataed) PAYE adjusted bonus to the employee(s). An agreed amount of profit is allowed to stay within the business in order to allow it to sustain itself, or if agreed, grow and invest.

It would be genuinely helpful if the HMRC could then create a standard catchall CT2000 return that results in zero corporation tax and allow it to be perpetually signed as a declaration in the NfLtd. companies founding documentation. Failing that, a tickbox on the end of one of the PAYE forms.

Employees of NfLtd companies, of which there usually very few, if seldom more than one, do work for other people and companies and charge for their time and expenses and sometimes add VAT. VAT being up to HMRC. They get a basic wage of twice the  national minimum wage to the nearest ten pounds sterling for every billable hour. If it is not billable it is not paid. Once the NfLtd has paid all its bills, including the employee(s)' fixed hourly rate, the company will hopefully have some left. This surplace might be reinvested in kit or training or comms bills, or kept for a bit to buy a bigger piece of kit, or it might be paid as a PAYE bonus, but it can never be simply handed over as a dividend. The company is not allowed by it's founding documentation to make a profit. No profit, no dividend to pay.

A company that invests in an NfLtd company does so without any expectation of the return of anything but their initial stake if it not spent by the NfLtd company before year end. This investment may or may not give the investor any say in the running of things, that would be part of the agreement between the two parties, but at year end, the investment must either be returned, spent, paid as PAYE or given to charity; the later being favoured and declared as a discoverable fact about the NfLtd. It should be noted though that it would be wise for the director(s) to take good advice from people willing the dish out without hope of interest and scant thought of return. It would be declared as an expense by the investor company and given generally for strategic rather than direct fiscal gain.

NfLtd companies pass all transactions through a single business account. This account being the one named to HMRC for the purpose.

It would be useful if the banks could offer a web page for NfLtd companies to tag their account statement lines with something useful and for the bank to generate the relevant accounting reports as ageed with HMRC. We'll tell you what that was, you agree with the taxman what it costs. You do it once for the lot of us and then crank out the monthly charges. Each bank has a declared agreement with HMRC and a pre-agreed list of account line item meanings. The bank has a business front end wrapped around this framework, and can also offer or franchise out such things as printing and sending the customer bills. If the customer doesn't pay up in the agreed time, the bank takes this seriously and applies interest as per the law. It is not the employee doing this, it is the bank.

Given that the Invoice line items for Engineering time spent on a particular project or task came off a timesheet entry that also becomes an employee pay packet line item, it would be handy if the bank could take the billable line items in the form of a timesheet and handle the person tax sums as well. Different account of course, but at least a subset of those same numbers. See it as the employee and the company using the bank as a trusted third party between the company part of the directors balance of payments and the personal side of the pay packet. If the system works, the taxes just fall out of the bottom and straight into the BoE.

Directors can invest in their company by giving an indefinite, unrecallable, interest free loan. The only way the director gains is by improving the company and so the size of his PAYE bonus. When a loan is given by a director to their own company it does not attract any personal tax benefit for the investor. This does not restrict the ability of other individuals and companies to lend money for interest, just the NfLtd companies' own directors.

Given that there is only one way out for cash money to come out of the company and into the private bank account without fraud and that is through the personal taxation system, which is due for a shakeup soon anyway, the regulatory burden is reduced in several different ways.

The main avenue of potential fraud would be to attach a bogus type or personal use percentage to a bank statement line item. To be fraud this would have to benefit the employee in a more direct way than was declared and so bypass the normal payment/taxation route. Effort should be taken to find a reasonably equitable way of easily divining and charging tax on the difference between personal gain and company gain. If no other reasonably low mainteneace way of working out what it should be can be found the rate of the personal/company benefit split is a tithe, a tax; 10% personal. The easiest way is for the company and the HMRC to agree a ratio on declared dual use items and assume that percentage of cost as a pay packet net item, atracting all the usual PAYE charges. A Rep would probably have to pay a nominal percentage of their company van costs if it lived at his house and he used it to get the shopping every now and then. This in turn might mean the Rep decides not to bother with another vehicle. Might mean he doesn't join the race to the office blocks every day, just to pick up the van. Another way that the bank doing both could be really handy. The company pays the van bills, you tag them as van bills, the music goes round and round and the pay packet falls out here.



Author: Andrew Meredith <andrew@anvil.org>
Date: 18th March 2007
Copyright: The Anvil Organisation Ltd 2007

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